tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4631864311520504521.comments2008-11-30T19:07:39.632-08:00Art, Technology, and Other 21st Century StuffAlexis Pikehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00905783563918033654noreply@blogger.comBlogger41125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4631864311520504521.post-50033684270868310982008-11-30T19:07:00.000-08:002008-11-30T19:07:00.000-08:00I think that images have lost a great deal of thei...I think that images have lost a great deal of their intended effect due to desensitization, unfortunately that is a side effect of our culture. We see so much violence and distraction through the media that it is almost impossible to not be desensitized to tragedy.Jessicahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10917578419192417981noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4631864311520504521.post-87774881913653757072008-11-25T16:17:00.000-08:002008-11-25T16:17:00.000-08:00As you look back through the readings that were as...As you look back through the readings that were assigned in class, you find that "high art" or "fine art" was defined as something that would gather a large price tag, something that was made for the higher end of society to purchase. By this definition, these blockbuster movies would be considered high art. My perception of the early film makers was that they were a narcissistic group that was never satisfied with the final showing of their films. They were always trying to get the films out of a museum or gallery and into something bigger with a larger audience. They made art for the popularity rather than the art, but these films are still considered fine art. Why is something like Star Wars or Spiderman given a different set of rules? <BR/><BR/>-Racheal Johnson-Racheal Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05802732018892221519noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4631864311520504521.post-24333041407622791472008-11-20T20:51:00.000-08:002008-11-20T20:51:00.000-08:00This is indeed an interesting question. Really we ...This is indeed an interesting question. Really we can already see the foreshadowing of a future change in the way art is communicated and spread. Social networking services like YouTube and MySpace have veritably revolutionized the way in which contemporary art is spread. It seems that artists no longer have to wait for their 'big break' these days; one simply posts his work on YouTube or MySpace and waits for his cult status to grow. In this way it seems that we're moving away from the slick corporate ethos associated with mass media a decade ago an are entering into something more folk oriented. But, this being said, it is impossible to predict the future, is it not? <BR/><BR/>-Bryce VanHoosen-Gramr1066https://www.blogger.com/profile/09514757753144036131noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4631864311520504521.post-16687586110415211302008-11-20T10:58:00.000-08:002008-11-20T10:58:00.000-08:00I strongly believe that we have. Technology now do...I strongly believe that we have. Technology now dominants the art world improving everything and setting a standard for what is to come. It seems that many forms of art that are untouched by technology can't compete in the art world. I do believe that technology is no longer a "new" way of art but more of an "expected" way of presenting art. I think that because technologically altered art is so popular now, it opens the door to allow so many more diverse applications.<BR/><BR/>Chad MiltenbergerChadwick Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07099265221091634696noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4631864311520504521.post-14517111854704092482008-11-20T00:07:00.000-08:002008-11-20T00:07:00.000-08:00Moot point i guess, but my two cents is that art i...Moot point i guess, but my two cents is that art is something created by someone to fulfill some sort of intrinsic need. When art is made for the entertainment of others or made to conform to what others may want to see, it loses it's value and importance. Good art is art that means something to the artist and if the audience can somehow relate to, connect to, or understand it, then it becomes that much more valuable. So in this sense my answer to the question is no. But then again, by this definition, who is anyone but the artist (filmmaker) to say what fine art is?nate wattershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12401395139693153531noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4631864311520504521.post-30822098692832498312008-11-19T23:17:00.000-08:002008-11-19T23:17:00.000-08:00I do think that most art has evolved from making a...I do think that most art has evolved from making art that is a statement about technology to using technology to create art. In class today, we watched a video on a video art installation that used a lazer sharp edge to make water appear transparent and superimposing older and newer film technologies to get an early and modern feel. The work was about the thin veil between life and death, not technology, even though it certainly required technology to be made. I wrote my final paper on Maggie Taylor, an artist who uses scanners instead of photographs to get images into her computer and adjust them in photoshop cs. While her process is very technical, her work doesn't feel digital at all and its statement is much more about humanity than technology. To put it bluntly, I'm much more excited about what artists can do with technology than what they may have to say about it because I feel that that statement has already been made by many authors and writers alike.Tayler Blackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11967464936996155457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4631864311520504521.post-6920394776125535292008-11-19T21:58:00.000-08:002008-11-19T21:58:00.000-08:00I like this question. It asks "where is this all ...I like this question. It asks "where is this all going?" I believe that all formats are converging into a single completely immersive experience that will be holograms eventually. It seems a long way off, and ridiculous at best to even think about it right now, but to control an atmosphere completely in terms of visuals, motion, interaction, textural feel, possibly even smell and taste, seems to be the ultimate goal of the world of art. The more levels of technology upon technology, detail upon detail, many artists could be involved in creating a world of interactive holographics. <BR/><BR/>k. now i feel silly for even mentioning this startreky idea. lol.<BR/><BR/>i don't even like startrek....<BR/><BR/>Matthew WrightMatthew Wrighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00981846770371064457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4631864311520504521.post-66776411805704464672008-11-19T17:04:00.000-08:002008-11-19T17:04:00.000-08:00The idea of mass media is defined and controlled b...The idea of mass media is defined and controlled by those that label items or works as such. The world of fine art may define what is considered mass media, but by excluding those items from artistic consideration and instead only considering certain things that fulfill their criteria, in a way they have created their own "art world mass media". This does not, however, mean that a work should not be judged and measured for its qualities. On the other hand, it does mean that no work should be discredited of artistic value based on its origin. As usual, this merely means that each work should be evaluated based on its individual qualities, once again leaving the responsibility with each individual viewer.Paul Amaralhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01127831079781506106noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4631864311520504521.post-80962267663232141162008-11-19T15:53:00.000-08:002008-11-19T15:53:00.000-08:00I believe that the quality of the film determines ...I believe that the quality of the film determines its artistic appeal. It's sleazy to just make a film to make money, but if the film is good I don't care one way or the other. Some films that are considered high art should not be in my opinion, and they are created for that purpose. So to me anything could be considered high art as long as it is of good quality.<BR/><BR/>Derek KlayumDKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12634085458717340457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4631864311520504521.post-26677053656812737572008-11-19T12:20:00.000-08:002008-11-19T12:20:00.000-08:00Do movies that are treated like a product really q...Do movies that are treated like a product really qualify as fine art?<BR/><BR/>I think it depends on who is treating like a product. If it is being produced for the purpose of only to make money, then I would probably say no. <BR/>If a film becomes really popular, like pan's labyrinth, for example, I don't think that makes it not art.<BR/><BR/>But I also think it depends on your definition of fine art. I highly dislike the term <I>fine art</I>.meghan.https://www.blogger.com/profile/07204207111080709390noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4631864311520504521.post-83002177447373369202008-11-19T10:54:00.000-08:002008-11-19T10:54:00.000-08:00Wow so OK the first question is how do you define ...Wow so OK the first question is how do you define fine art. The purpose of any movie today is to make money. Think back to the Renaissance, artist were commissioned by a patron to paint sculpt... for money, and now those piece are considered fine art. Many artist work on a film, there are set designers, matte painters, cinematographers, and costume designers. Now i know that the umpteenth version of any movie gets ridiculous, but that is what the public wants. Art is what the artist sees and how it makes the viewer feel. So what you think is junk may be fine art to another.adturnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02659153108327395093noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4631864311520504521.post-59836427415305472732008-11-19T10:42:00.000-08:002008-11-19T10:42:00.000-08:00I think for creative purposes there is a level of ...I think for creative purposes there is a level of needing to be better than the picture before because pictures are so easily disposible. But no matter what we still enjoy what pictures we take of family and friends and share them on sites like flickr, myspace, facebook, the list is endless. So with out digital cameras we couldn't have that instantaneous gratification of enjoying a picture.Sophia.Stallivierehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10506969640761468057noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4631864311520504521.post-64211811581122432062008-11-19T10:29:00.000-08:002008-11-19T10:29:00.000-08:00It was difficult to follow, i did enjoy it but at ...It was difficult to follow, i did enjoy it but at the same time, it would not be one where i would seek out to see again. There were too many weird factors to it and it seemed like you had to be on some sort of acid trip to really see what it was all about. but it's not so bad to shot yourself in the arm, but maybe do some sort of pain to get through.<BR/>Sophia stalliviereSophia.Stallivierehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10506969640761468057noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4631864311520504521.post-21167928586341711042008-11-19T09:14:00.000-08:002008-11-19T09:14:00.000-08:00I believe we as a nation are desensitization so ma...I believe we as a nation are desensitization so many things. we see a piture of a naked man or women and most of just go about oour days. Some people may actually turn away from those images. When we see tragedies in photos sometimes I can not help but to to want to look away from it. But, that is just who i am a a person. I do not like to see people in pain.Sky and AIRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10512698650727369818noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4631864311520504521.post-7520832369767137302008-11-19T09:13:00.000-08:002008-11-19T09:13:00.000-08:00I believe that movies that are created for alterna...I believe that movies that are created for alternative purposes like for means of making money through the products that they will sell to promote a movie or vice versa is not fine art. A film or movie that is created as fine art should not have any alterior motives that lean toward product or financial gain.Christie Houghamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10592530518581698663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4631864311520504521.post-18103704943158736622008-11-19T08:54:00.000-08:002008-11-19T08:54:00.000-08:00I wonder if Amish people are allowed to look at ph...I wonder if Amish people are allowed to look at photographs, because it is technology? (Outside of that time period when an Amish teen is expected to step away from the community and experiment with everything they've been forbidden to experience.) <BR/><BR/>this sheds some light on the question....they look at photos (caledars, books, etc.) but don't particularly like having their photo taken. http://www.amishnews.com/amisharticles/amishand%20photos.htmAlexis Pikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00905783563918033654noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4631864311520504521.post-75112372341417103772008-11-19T08:50:00.000-08:002008-11-19T08:50:00.000-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Alexis Pikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00905783563918033654noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4631864311520504521.post-61917057490192551902008-11-19T04:44:00.000-08:002008-11-19T04:44:00.000-08:00I think there is some truth to that.. but not in h...I think there is some truth to that.. but not in how you might think.<BR/><BR/>It would really depend on your upbringing and culture.<BR/><BR/>An image that might have lost some of it's meaning for us, may still be an extremely powerful image to certain groups of people that shun modern technology, but still appreciate photographs, so for instance, the Amish. <BR/><BR/>Just a thought.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4631864311520504521.post-68283545156477794392008-11-18T12:49:00.000-08:002008-11-18T12:49:00.000-08:00Movies as products should not be allowed to qualif...Movies as products should not be allowed to qualify as fine art at all. I'm sick of all these movies that come out with a million parts just to make money. I'm sorry to say that I'm not the biggest fan of Star Wars because of it. When I think about Fine Art films I think about artists who enjoy the thought of letting the viewer experience a film in oppose to just watching it and not getting anything out of it.Sanjanahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14048576770516666733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4631864311520504521.post-51738774069484682002008-11-17T22:52:00.000-08:002008-11-17T22:52:00.000-08:00I believe that these days it may take more in a ph...I believe that these days it may take more in a photograph to get the intended effect across to the general public. I do believe that some images will always make people think and relate to the public but I do think that it is easy to pass by something that should make you cringe or laugh but now wouldn't get a second glance.<BR/><BR/>OrtolfHollandjillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00761546732848702519noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4631864311520504521.post-4427470557964322452008-11-17T16:14:00.000-08:002008-11-17T16:14:00.000-08:00As a film maker, I say no. If something is made fo...As a film maker, I say no. If something is made for the sake of money, marketing, or simply making a Spiderman 15 so that a company can sell dolls at Christmas, it becomes a bastardization of art. Fine art is subjective but I will never think of Batman as fine art. The Tim Burton ones were awesome, but still not art.<BR/><BR/>Erin WilkinsonErinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06708090473936866753noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4631864311520504521.post-3119508781690880682008-11-17T14:52:00.000-08:002008-11-17T14:52:00.000-08:00I think we have. Where there was actual artwork wi...I think we have. Where there was actual artwork with television sets, now it seems we're just using technology to create the artwork itself. Photographs get digitally enhanced, videos are edited with computer programs, etc. Perhaps because technology as art was a new concept, as with everything else, once it's no longer 'new' it sort of gets used and recycled until perhaps it has evolved into something relatively new.<BR/><BR/>MayraMayra Najerahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05501916598202441244noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4631864311520504521.post-13580743218360706482008-11-17T11:48:00.000-08:002008-11-17T11:48:00.000-08:00thanks for re-posting this. i love how you descri...thanks for re-posting this. i love how you described the hugger and how you felt as an audience member. in fact, i am such a gullible schmuck that i got a little teared up reading about it.Alexis Pikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00905783563918033654noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4631864311520504521.post-6880389830584128892008-11-17T10:56:00.000-08:002008-11-17T10:56:00.000-08:00i liked your last post....put it back up (even if ...i liked your last post....put it back up (even if it is your written response).Alexis Pikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00905783563918033654noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4631864311520504521.post-39603727826604043762008-11-17T10:43:00.000-08:002008-11-17T10:43:00.000-08:00pretty cool....human spirit is the highest form of...pretty cool....human spirit is the highest form of art.Alexis Pikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00905783563918033654noreply@blogger.com